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How should Texas deal with Jeremiah Smith in rematch with Ohio State?

AUSTIN, Texas — There was a method to Steve Sarkisian’s madness when the Texas coach embarked on a mission to challenge Malik Muhammad ahead of the team’s second camp scrimmage.

“I purposely went after him with a couple of different things,” Sarkisian said after the scrimmage. “For him to play the way that he played gave me more confidence than I've had, and I have a lot in him. Today was very, very encouraging on that front.”

Muhammad, a veteran cornerback with 18 starts in 30 career games, will begin the 2025 season with arguably the toughest assignment he’ll face as a junior whenever he has to cover Ohio State’s Jeremiah Smith. Smith was limited to one reception for three yards on Jan. 10, when the Buckeyes’ 28-14 triumph in the Cotton Bowl ended the Longhorns’ season one game shy of the College Football Playoff National Championship.

“It was a team effort,” Muhammad said earlier in camp about what it took for Texas to hold Smith to his lowest statistical output and his lowest single-game grade from Pro Football Focus during his remarkable true freshman season.

The Longhorns had Smith’s number in Arlington. Still, Sarkisian, who didn’t mention Smith or any other Ohio State wide receivers by name while detailing what Muhammad went through last week, knows coach Ryan Day and offensive coordinator Brian Hartline will be looking to get the 6-foot-3-inch, 223-pound Smith (76 receptions 1,315 yards and 15 touchdowns, which established new freshman records for a Buckeye) involved early and often.

The occasions when Muhammad finds himself one-on-one with Smith should be few and far between.

That’s not a knock on the 6-foot, 188-pound Muhammad, who Pro Football Focus touts as the sixth-best returning cornerback in the country. Texas should do whatever it takes to limit the times Smith faces man coverage because he destroyed opponents in those situations last season.

According to PFF, Smith’s 90.6 grade against man coverage was second among FBS wide receivers (minimum of 13 targets), recording 25 receptions for 384 yards and four touchdowns on 32 targets with a near-perfect NFL passer rating when targeted (156.3). Smith also averaged 4.09 yards per route run (sixth in FBS) with an average depth of target of 11.1 yards, indicating that if Will Howard could correctly identify that Smith was facing man coverage, the nation’s No. 1-ranked recruit in 2024 would be turned loose, and Ohio State could hunt chunk-yardage plays (Smith caught 12 passes last season that traveled 20 yards or more down the field, racking up 467 yards and scoring four touchdowns, recording a near-perfect PFF grade of 99.9 when targeted on deep throws).

Julian Sayin, who was named Ohio State’s starting quarterback on Monday, shouldn’t be expected to decipher what Pete Kwiatkowski is throwing at him in his first career start. Nevertheless, it remains to be seen how much Kwiatkowski and Duane Akina alternate between playing man and zone in the opener.

That has more to do with trusting the communication that the secondary has worked to rebuild in the wake of losing Jahdae Barron and Andrew Mukuba than anything else. At the same time, an effective pass rush could make life on the back end much more manageable if the Longhorns can routinely pressure Sayin.

Although Smith was good last season against zone, catching 43 passes for 783 yards and nine touchdowns, shading coverage to his side of the field and devoting more resources to him, in general, is the path of least resistance.

Elevated to the No. 2 wide receiver, with Emeka Egbuka out of eligibility, Carnell Tate was much better against zone last season (a season-long PFF grade of 73.7) than when working against man coverage (59.1). While it’s risky for Texas to let its defensive backs handle Tate, Brandon Inniss and the other Buckeye receiving threats more often in one-on-one situations, Muhammad and the other Longhorn defensive backs should be ready for what they’ll see inside the Horseshoe in 12 days.

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CHorn427

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2 minutes ago, Dread-headed Texan said:

I think he's closer to Tua than Quinn because he's a little more athletic than most give him credit for.

We’ll see how athletic he is in real game time against a fast defense. Tua wasn’t immensely athletic compared to Quinn. Quinn was “sneaky” athletic himself. 
 

I don’t think Quinn’s athleticism was his weakness. Pocket presence and deep ball accuracy. Tua was absolutely better than Quinn on those two fronts (though it’s kind of an unfair comparison with Bama’s OL in front of him). 
 

I will need to see Sayin have success throwing deep before I compare him to Tua (that was Tua’s defining trait). If he is a short and intermediate range merchant with “arm talent”, he’s closer to Quinn.

LovingBuckeye

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14 minutes ago, CHorn427 said:

Were they keeping his arm strength under wraps during the spring game? I think you might be confusing arm strength with arm talent/accuracy.

https://youtu.be/mNHG4ZSQ0Tk?si=o8BAvzK2KoufZsTN

I wouldn’t recommend basing anything off of spring games

LovingBuckeye

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1 minute ago, CHorn427 said:

We’ll see how athletic he is in real game time against a fast defense. Tua wasn’t immensely athletic compared to Quinn. Quinn was “sneaky” athletic himself. 
 

I don’t think Quinn’s athleticism was his weakness. Pocket presence and deep ball accuracy. Tua was absolutely better than Quinn on those two fronts (though it’s kind of an unfair comparison with Bama’s OL in front of him). 
 

I will need to see Sayin have success throwing deep before I compare him to Tua (that was Tua’s defining trait). If he is a short and intermediate range merchant with “arm talent”, he’s closer to Quinn.

Yeah, Tua was the most accurate deep ball thrower I have ever seen. I hope no Buckeye is comparing him to Tua. Sayin’s defining trait is his processing speed. 

CHorn427

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Just now, LovingBuckeye said:

I wouldn’t recommend basing anything off of spring games

Literally nothing I’ve ever seen about Sayin says indicates he has above average arm strength, including his HS tapes and the fact that he’s a skinny 5’11’’. 
 

He is accurate and has good arm talent. You’ll need to show me evidence to convince his actual arm strength is a strength. I haven’t even seen that in writing. 

Califashorn75

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One on one with Manny. Prove your value. 

LovingBuckeye

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26 minutes ago, Dread-headed Texan said:

When watching the spring game or his time in against Michigan State I didn't see him powering the ball into tight windows. People confuse being able to throw far and a strong arm. Joe Milton has a strong arm, Will Howard had a strong arm, that's not what you get from Sayin. 

The funny thing is that even though WH was 6’4 225, Sayin has a stronger arm than Will Howard. And when I say stronger, what I mean is he can throw the ball further than Will Howard. Can he throw it further and be as accurate? We will find out, but Sayin can launch the ball.

LovingBuckeye

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2 minutes ago, CHorn427 said:

Literally nothing I’ve ever seen about Sayin says indicates he has above average arm strength, including his HS tapes and the fact that he’s a skinny 5’11’’. 
 

He is accurate and has good arm talent. You’ll need to show me evidence to convince his actual arm strength is a strength. I haven’t even seen that in writing. 

He’s 6’1 210. Plenty big enough for college football. I don’t care about height until it comes to the NFL

Tim Longoria

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1 hour ago, LovingBuckeye said:

They should focus on Carnell Tate and Brandon Innis. Jeremiah Smith is overrated. Put Anthony Hill on him!

Boy I was about to say "Whos saying this stupid sh....!" Then I saw the username 😂😂😂 ya got me, good one!

LovingBuckeye

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3 minutes ago, CHorn427 said:

Literally nothing I’ve ever seen about Sayin says indicates he has above average arm strength, including his HS tapes and the fact that he’s a skinny 5’11’’. 
 

He is accurate and has good arm talent. You’ll need to show me evidence to convince his actual arm strength is a strength. I haven’t even seen that in writing. 

You probably don’t follow Ohio State as closely as I do. Either way, we will all find out together one way or another in 2 weeks. I’m not convinced that the Arch Manning we saw against Georgia isn’t going to be the Arch we see against Ohio State.

SuperDave0805

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For our new Buckeye friend 

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Dread-headed Texan

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16 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said:

The funny thing is that even though WH was 6’4 225, Sayin has a stronger arm than Will Howard. And when I say stronger, what I mean is he can throw the ball further than Will Howard. Can he throw it further and be as accurate? We will find out, but Sayin can launch the ball.

Throwing the ball far isn't arm strength. Quinn could throw the ball 70 yards and nobody here would say he has a strong arm. Arch has arm strength and when he rips it you see it, evidenced by how quickly the ball gets on you. Sayin is a very talented passer and extremely accurate, but when throwing the ball from the opposite hash it dies on him. 

LovingBuckeye

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6 minutes ago, Dread-headed Texan said:

Throwing the ball far isn't arm strength. Quinn could throw the ball 70 yards and nobody here would say he has a strong arm. Arch has arm strength and when he rips it you see it, evidenced by how quickly the ball gets on you. Sayin is a very talented passer and extremely accurate, but when throwing the ball from the opposite hash it dies on him. 

Fair enough on your definition of arm strength.

Dread-headed Texan

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29 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said:

You probably don’t follow Ohio State as closely as I do. Either way, we will all find out together one way or another in 2 weeks. I’m not convinced that the Arch Manning we saw against Georgia isn’t going to be the Arch we see against Ohio State.

I do for a number of reason, but mainly because instead of having a package he'll have a scripted plan that Sark has been implementing all summer. Either way the game still has to be played. 

LovingBuckeye

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Jeremiah Smith on Julian Sayin

”That arm is different. He can make any and every throw. Just a smart QB. He’s definitely going to be a guy. It’s going to be scary for opponents.”

8/30 can’t come soon enough!

Is it just me or does just under two weeks feel like an eternity?

Ace Recruiter

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Do Tanya Harding or Jeff Gallooley have any eligibility left?

Dread-headed Texan

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11 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said:

Jeremiah Smith on Julian Sayin

”That arm is different. He can make any and every throw. Just a smart QB. He’s definitely going to be a guy. It’s going to be scary for opponents.”

8/30 can’t come soon enough!

Is it just me or does just under two weeks feel like an eternity?

Just an observation, but is there a reason that for whatever hash the ball is lined up on that's the side both QBs throw to? They almost never throw backside. Not saying they can't(even if that's how I feel) only that they don't. 

ArizonaLonghorn

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1 hour ago, LovingBuckeye said:

From all local reports, Sayin’s arm strength is one of his best attributes 

I remember Sark was recruiting him really hard, and Sayin was liking what he heard, given Sark's rep for QB development.

Then Arch committed to Texas (with just a one year gap to Sayin) and both sides kind of moved away from the recruitment.

Had Arch not stuck with Texas it sure looked like Sayin was Sark's top pick in the next class - all this talk about his shortcomings is funny, we would have taken him in a heartbeat under different circumstances.  

AusMOJO

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To be honest, take that same gameplan against Smith and employ it again. Ohio State doesn't have the same caliber of RB's it had last year, their other WR's are good but not the caliber of Smith. Klare is a threat at TE but I think if you do what you did against Smith again and combine that with your pass rush to rattle Sayin, that is a recipe for success. Smith is his safety blanket.

Sayin isn't as mobile as Howard and can't extend the play like he did and doesn't have the experience Howard had. Now their OL I'm not sure if it's as good or better, but they're replacing 4 starters like us. So, like our guys, will take some time to gel.

No reason to over think it, imo. While they have other great WR's, none come close to Smith. Taking him out of the game (again) should be the main focus. 

Dread-headed Texan

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29 minutes ago, ArizonaLonghorn said:

I remember Sark was recruiting him really hard, and Sayin was liking what he heard, given Sark's rep for QB development.

Then Arch committed to Texas (with just a one year gap to Sayin) and both sides kind of moved away from the recruitment.

Had Arch not stuck with Texas it sure looked like Sayin was Sark's top pick in the next class - all this talk about his shortcomings is funny, we would have taken him in a heartbeat under different 

We're not saying he's not good. We pointed out what he does well. Up and down this thread you'll see where we said he's an extremely talented passer of the football, highly accurate, processes and releases quickly. Pointing out athleticism, escaping ability, or arm strength isn't bashing him. It does and will show up. I truly believe we didn't score more touchdowns in the redzone because of Quinn's arm strength. Sayin is going to do just fine. 

AusMOJO

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49 minutes ago, LovingBuckeye said:

Jeremiah Smith on Julian Sayin

”That arm is different. He can make any and every throw. Just a smart QB. He’s definitely going to be a guy. It’s going to be scary for opponents.”

8/30 can’t come soon enough!

Is it just me or does just under two weeks feel like an eternity?

This is true and his talent is evident, even Sark was recruiting him hard before Manning committed and both parties kinda just drifted apart. But this is in practice, no? When he was teams coming after him and in his face, can he still make those throws? Can he do this while progressing his reads, etc?

The same is true for Manning. We've seen him under duress and come out to make plays and also struggle. Have you seen that from Sayin yet? Has he experienced that the college level?

I do agree that it can't come soon enough, either way it'll be a fun game and I will say, I do appreciate you being cordial with us and not coming here to troll. 

 

LovingBuckeye

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1 hour ago, ArizonaLonghorn said:

I remember Sark was recruiting him really hard, and Sayin was liking what he heard, given Sark's rep for QB development.

Then Arch committed to Texas (with just a one year gap to Sayin) and both sides kind of moved away from the recruitment.

Had Arch not stuck with Texas it sure looked like Sayin was Sark's top pick in the next class - all this talk about his shortcomings is funny, we would have taken him in a heartbeat under different circumstances.  

Don’t worry, Ohio State fans are the same way. If Saban wouldn’t have retired and he never left Alabama, I’m sure we would have many critiques of his game.

LovingBuckeye

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54 minutes ago, AusMOJO said:

This is true and his talent is evident, even Sark was recruiting him hard before Manning committed and both parties kinda just drifted apart. But this is in practice, no? When he was teams coming after him and in his face, can he still make those throws? Can he do this while progressing his reads, etc?

The same is true for Manning. We've seen him under duress and come out to make plays and also struggle. Have you seen that from Sayin yet? Has he experienced that the college level?

I do agree that it can't come soon enough, either way it'll be a fun game and I will say, I do appreciate you being cordial with us and not coming here to troll. 

 

Thank you all for having me. This has been the most cordial opposing team forum I’ve ever been on. 

justwinbaby

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Pressure Julian Sayin every time you can.  Talented prospect, but we need to see if he can make the plays with pressure.

CHorn427

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2 hours ago, LovingBuckeye said:

You probably don’t follow Ohio State as closely as I do. Either way, we will all find out together one way or another in 2 weeks. I’m not convinced that the Arch Manning we saw against Georgia isn’t going to be the Arch we see against Ohio State.

Lol you FOR SURE don’t watch much Texas football. Arch Manning played 5 snaps vs UGA with 1:24 to go in the first half. He was pressured to move the ball down the field against an elite defense and the first thing he did was run for 21 yds and take us across the 50 for the first time in the game.

Yeah, he took 2 sacks and fumbled a few plays later. It’s a different story actually starting the game with a script vs coming in down 17 pts with 1:24 left in the first half, wouldn’t you say?

I guarantee you Arch has been in scarier situations than he will be in in Columbus. Sayin hasn’t. 

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