I’ll put out my 2 cents before the RB hire is announced.  The principle qualities needed in a RB coach at Texas is to be a volume recruiter, to instill the Sark culture into the players in the RB room and to be a great developer of talent, in that order.  The TE coach needs to same qualities; you can’t replace Jeff Banks with some TE coach no one has ever heard of.  It must be a splash hire for an A grade.  Of those speculated for the job, only Jabbar Juluke, Tony Alford, Carlos Locklyn and maybe Kevin Smith have all of the qualities we need.  Khenon Hall might have been a great hire 3 years ago (and might turn out to be a fantastic RB coach in the long run), but Texas is right on the cusp of winning a Natty and a Javian Osborne or Amari Latimer or Ezavier Crowell or Derrek Cooper might make the difference in getting there.  We need a splash hire to make sure that happens.  Just my two cents.

I think Khenon Hall would be a great hire.  He's already a good recruiter.  With the Texas brand to sell, he'll be even better.

11 minutes ago, GetHooked said:

I think Khenon Hall would be a great hire.  He's already a good recruiter.  With the Texas brand to sell, he'll be even better.

Even a great recruiter like Chris Jackson had a lackluster first year.  Hall will likely be the same, which may cost us a 5-star RB.  This is not the time to take a step back.

Trust Sark!!!!

1 minute ago, GoHorns1 said:

Trust Sark!!!!

💯

Don’t care about a splash hire.  Let’s get the best coach available that provides the best possible blend of volume recruiting and RB development.  
 

We’ve been blessed with an outstanding RB room since before Sark arrived.  This past year was OK, but not up to the prior standard.  The loss of Baxter and Clark in the preseason obviously contributed to that, but I would also argue that Blue underachieved a bit and Gibson was a non factor despite the opportunity for him to fill the void left by Baxter’s injury.  Choice’s replacement needs to make it rain on and off the field. 

46 minutes ago, Raistlin said:

Even a great recruiter like Chris Jackson had a lackluster first year.  Hall will likely be the same, which may cost us a 5-star RB.  This is not the time to take a step back.

The wr coach? How was it lackluster ?

Choice wasn’t a splash hire…

Need energy and charisma with a history of development. The reputation will grow because of the position. 

1 hour ago, Raistlin said:

I’ll put out my 2 cents before the RB hire is announced.  The principle qualities needed in a RB coach at Texas is to be a volume recruiter, to instill the Sark culture into the players in the RB room and to be a great developer of talent, in that order.  The TE coach needs to same qualities; you can’t replace Jeff Banks with some TE coach no one has ever heard of.  It must be a splash hire for an A grade.  Of those speculated for the job, only Jabbar Juluke, Tony Alford, Carlos Locklyn and maybe Kevin Smith have all of the qualities we need.  Khenon Hall might have been a great hire 3 years ago (and might turn out to be a fantastic RB coach in the long run), but Texas is right on the cusp of winning a Natty and a Javian Osborne or Amari Latimer or Ezavier Crowell or Derrek Cooper might make the difference in getting there.  We need a splash hire to make sure that happens.  Just my two cents.

What do you mean by volume recruiter? Choice took two guys every cycle

22 minutes ago, Daniel Lovell said:

The wr coach? How was it lackluster ?

Dubose 3-star, Livingstone 3-star, Butler 4-star #165ish late flip when we missed on higher rated prospects and Ryan Wingo.  Certainly not a Brian Hartline level group.  Wingo was the only real stud and he was reeled in late by Sark and NIL; Jackson did his job on Wingo but was not why we won the recruitment.  Now, Chris Jackson absolutely tore it up with the 2025 class, but Jackson admitted publicly that he started too far behind in 2024 to win the big time recruitments.  The point is, no matter how good a recruiter you are, you won’t sign the big dogs if you don’t already have a relationship with them already.  A splash hire is already recruiting the guys we want at his current job.

14 minutes ago, Thanos72 said:

Choice wasn’t a splash hire…

That was three years ago while the Sarks program was developing and we had time for coaches to develop.  Now that development may cost us a Natty.

4 minutes ago, Beard N Balls Bundle said:

What do you mean by volume recruiter? Choice took two guys every cycle

He means that Choice was the lead recruiter on several recruits and he put coaches on recruits too.

4 minutes ago, Beard N Balls Bundle said:

What do you mean by volume recruiter? Choice took two guys every cycle

Choice helped every other coach on the staff get into Georgia and Florida.  Choice may not have been the “lead recruiter” but those recruits would not have signed with Texas without Choice.  The same thing goes for Jeff Banks.

7 minutes ago, Beard N Balls Bundle said:

What do you mean by volume recruiter? Choice took two guys every cycle

Choice also recruit other positions. He was involved with all recruits in Florida and Georgia.

40 minutes ago, tsip92 said:

Don’t care about a splash hire.  Let’s get the best coach available that provides the best possible blend of volume recruiting and RB development.  
 

We’ve been blessed with an outstanding RB room since before Sark arrived.  This past year was OK, but not up to the prior standard.  The loss of Baxter and Clark in the preseason obviously contributed to that, but I would also argue that Blue underachieved a bit and Gibson was a non factor despite the opportunity for him to fill the void left by Baxter’s injury.  Choice’s replacement needs to make it rain on and off the field. 

A no name RB coach is not going to “make it rain” in the short term, no matter how good he is as a coach.

1 hour ago, Raistlin said:

Even a great recruiter like Chris Jackson had a lackluster first year.  Hall will likely be the same, which may cost us a 5-star RB.  This is not the time to take a step back.

Difference is that Chris was starting from scratch.  Khenon already has a relationship with the backs.  You might be comparing apples to oranges.  

15 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said:

Need energy and charisma with a history of development. The reputation will grow because of the position. 

Will the new RB coach sign Osborne and Latimer or Cooper without a reputation already established?

1 minute ago, Raistlin said:

A no name RB coach is not going to “make it rain” in the short term, no matter how good he is as a coach.

Choice wasn’t a splash hire by any means. 

2 hours ago, Raistlin said:

I’ll put out my 2 cents before the RB hire is announced.  The principle qualities needed in a RB coach at Texas is to be a volume recruiter, to instill the Sark culture into the players in the RB room and to be a great developer of talent, in that order.  The TE coach needs to same qualities; you can’t replace Jeff Banks with some TE coach no one has ever heard of.  It must be a splash hire for an A grade.  Of those speculated for the job, only Jabbar Juluke, Tony Alford, Carlos Locklyn and maybe Kevin Smith have all of the qualities we need.  Khenon Hall might have been a great hire 3 years ago (and might turn out to be a fantastic RB coach in the long run), but Texas is right on the cusp of winning a Natty and a Javian Osborne or Amari Latimer or Ezavier Crowell or Derrek Cooper might make the difference in getting there.  We need a splash hire to make sure that happens.  Just my two cents.

Maybe Banks will do more recruiting with McEndoo on for TE?

What we also need from the new RB coach+Flood/Banks/McEndoo is to convert short yardage and not put the ball on the turf, just sayin'.  

1 minute ago, Raistlin said:

Will the new RB coach sign Osborne and Latimer or Cooper without a reputation already established?

Yes

18 minutes ago, CJ Vogel said:

Need energy and charisma with a history of development. The reputation will grow because of the position. 

@CJ Vogel any new updates of candidates from your sources?

1 minute ago, GetHooked said:

Difference is that Chris was starting from scratch.  Khenon already has a relationship with the backs.  You might be comparing apples to oranges.  

Does Khenon have a relationship with Osborne and Latimer and Crowell and Cooper?  If so, he might work.  But I doubt that a coach from Baylor has developed strong relationships with these recruits, especially from out of state.

What I can tell you is that the guy calling the plays is the same and the plays will be the same. We will get top backs even with you coaching the backs.

5 minutes ago, Raistlin said:

Does Khenon have a relationship with Osborne and Latimer and Crowell and Cooper?  If so, he might work.  But I doubt that a coach from Baylor has developed strong relationships with these recruits, especially from out of state.

Osborne, yes.  Haven't read about the others.