Just now, Gerry Hamilton said:

As a head coach! 

Specifically as a head coach is what I said. 

Good for you. Freeman walks around with his pecs flexing. As a "head coach," Sark v Freeman be like Kobe v Vince Carter.

15 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

Good for you. Freeman walks around with his pecs flexing. As a "head coach," Sark v Freeman be like Kobe v Vince Carter.

Well, Freeman was the National Coach of the Year in 2024

Coached ND to the NC game 

One of the youngest head coaches to ever coach in an NC game 

Three things he’s got on Sark, and a lot of other coaches at the same age

See how it all plays out over time, but he’s off to a great start … better than most.

1 hour ago, Forrest J. said:

I’ve said it for a while now, Sark has topped out as a college program builder.  He can take you from bad to good and even really good. But taking you from really good to great takes a special kind of coach, the kind that I don’t believe Sark is. 

We’ve seen other coaches appear to hit a ceiling only to dig deep, let that desire to win fire them up, make necessary changes, and take the NC. Day comes to mind. Sark is only in year 5 and Texas is in a position to win in the coming years. This is what pisses me off about sark if he leaves. Everything is in place to win. Just make some basic changes. But to bail on a team at this stage, after you’ve previously said you like being at Texas and you’re focused on winning the national championship is cowardly. I don’t care about his reasons; they’re incompatible with Texas goals now. The problem is that the stench from sark’s fart is going to linger over this team and recruiting for the rest of this season and into the offseason. 

18 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Well, Freeman was the National Coach of the Year in 2024

Coached ND to the NC game 

One of the youngest head coaches to ever coach in an NC game 

Three things he’s got on Sark, and a lot of other coaches at the same age

See how it all plays out over time, but he’s off to a great start … better than most.

Too much emphasis on hype vs technical knowledge and skill. Don't care about lunch in Florida. Chumps will always be chumps.

4 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

Too much emphasis on hype vs technical knowledge and skill. Don't care about lunch in Florida. Chumps will always be chumps.

You should really look up Sarks record and what happened at the time he was around 40. Freeman is far superior to Sark in every metric as a young HC and even now as a HC. 

1 minute ago, SchoolColors said:

You should really look up Sarks record and what happened at the time he was around 40. Freeman is far superior to Sark in every metric as a young HC and even now as a HC. 

How many titles does Freeman have compared to Sark? 

Just now, harveycmd said:

How many titles does Freeman have compared to Sark? 

None but how many national championships appearances does Freeman have compared to Sark as a head coach? What is Freeman’s record against Georgia vs Sark?

Just now, SchoolColors said:

None but how many national championships appearances does Freeman have compared to Sark as a head coach? What is Freeman’s record against Georgia vs Sark?

Nothing still be nothing. Kirby's dad died the day before Georgia played ND. You guys love nothing.

Just now, harveycmd said:

Nothing still be nothing. Kirby's dad died the day before Georgia played ND. You guys love nothing.

Remind me what happened to Sark when he was around Freeman’s age….

Freeman couldn't go .500 in the SEC.

Just now, SchoolColors said:

Remind me what happened to Sark when he was around Freeman’s age….

I think Sark had three titles at that time. Stop the crap. Freeman hasn't won anything of consequence.

3 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

I think Sark had three titles at that time. Stop the crap. Freeman hasn't won anything of consequence.

False. At that age range Steve Sarkisian was being for cause for being inebriated on the job. 

2 minutes ago, SchoolColors said:

False. At that age range Steve Sarkisian was being for cause for being inebriated on the job. 

How many titles has Sark won as a coach v Freeman? Sark's had problems. Freeman hasn't won anything. Take that to the bank and see what you get.

Edited October 27, 2025Oct 27 by harveycmd

49 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Well, Freeman was the National Coach of the Year in 2024

Coached ND to the NC game 

One of the youngest head coaches to ever coach in an NC game 

Three things he’s got on Sark, and a lot of other coaches at the same age

See how it all plays out over time, but he’s off to a great start … better than most.

Saying this is nothing as a head coach at 39 in his first ever head coaching job ... look at history. Geez. 

4 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Saying this is nothing as a head coach at 39 in his first ever head coaching job ... look at history. Geez. 

I don't think you meant to quote yourself Gerry. When Freeman wins a title you can talk. 

4 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Saying this is nothing as a head coach at 39 in his first ever head coaching job ... look at history. Geez. 

So you’re saying me winning a national championship on college football 25 at 34 doesn’t count? Well sh!t 😂

1 minute ago, harveycmd said:

I don't think you meant to quote yourself Gerry. When Freeman wins a title you can talk. 

 

3 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

I don't think you meant to quote yourself Gerry. When Freeman wins a title you can talk. 

Well, no I can talk now. Just as you can talk as well.  

We have differing opinions. It's fine. 

But here is the actual reality of Freeman as a head coach so far if you are discussing Freeman vs. Sark ... which I was originally responding to. 

Marcus Freeman has coached a team to the NC game, in year three as a head coach no less. 

He is one of the youngest HC's to ever appear in an NC game.

He was the 2024 National Coach of the Year. 

In the head coach discussion of the two, only one has those accomplishments. 

How will their careers end as head coaches? We shall see. So much more difficult for any of these guys to win NC's with a real playoff headed to 16 teams. 

As assistant coaches, Sark has been the OC of three NC's. Nick Saban won five national titles at Bama with different offensive coordinators. None have won one as a head coach. Maybe Sark will be the first! The only OC under Nick Saban to go on and win an NC was Jimbo Fisher at FSU. Pete Carroll won NC's with two different OC's at USC. Neither have won NC as a head coach. Maybe Sark will be the first! 

Will be fun to follow.

4 minutes ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Well, no I can talk now. Just as you can talk as well.  

We have differing opinions. It's fine. 

But here is the actual reality of Freeman as a head coach so far if you are discussing Freeman vs. Sark ... which I was originally responding to. 

Marcus Freeman has coached a team to the NC game, in year three as a head coach no less. 

He is one of the youngest HC's to ever appear in an NC game.

He was the 2024 National Coach of the Year. 

In the head coach discussion of the two, only one has those accomplishments. 

How will their careers end as head coaches? We shall see. So much more difficult for any of these guys to win NC's with a real playoff headed to 16 teams. 

As assistant coaches, Sark has been the OC of three NC's. Nick Saban won five national titles at Bama with different offensive coordinators. None have won one as a head coach. Maybe Sark will be the first! The only OC under Nick Saban to go on and win an NC was Jimbo Fisher at FSU. Pete Carroll won NC's with two different OC's at USC. Neither have won NC as a head coach. Maybe Sark will be the first! 

Will be fun to follow.

Kobe v Vince. Kobe v Iverson. Kobe v TMac. Kobe v Carmelo. Kobe Webber. Kobe v Kidd. Kobe v Pierce. Kobe v Garnett. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfqmBTcF8ZE

30 minutes ago, Jbro52 said:

So you’re saying me winning a national championship on college football 25 at 34 doesn’t count? Well sh!t 😂

well played! lol

7 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

Kobe v Vince. Kobe v Iverson. Kobe v TMac. Kobe v Carmelo. Kobe Webber. Kobe v Kidd. Kobe v Pierce. Kobe v Garnett. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfqmBTcF8ZE

Are you Vanessa Bryant?

25 minutes ago, Ojeezy said:

Are you Vanessa Bryant?

I'm a person who doesn't think Freeman has done anything. Get back to me when he does.

7 minutes ago, harveycmd said:

I'm a person who doesn't think Freeman has done anything. Get back to me when he does.

I’m trying to understand what Kobe has to do with anything. Or everything 

3 minutes ago, Ojeezy said:

I’m trying to understand what Kobe has to do with anything. Or everything 

There's a reference to "Mamba" at the entrance to the Longhorns locker room. You tell me.

1 hour ago, Gerry Hamilton said:

Well, no I can talk now. Just as you can talk as well.  

We have differing opinions. It's fine. 

But here is the actual reality of Freeman as a head coach so far if you are discussing Freeman vs. Sark ... which I was originally responding to. 

Marcus Freeman has coached a team to the NC game, in year three as a head coach no less. 

He is one of the youngest HC's to ever appear in an NC game.

He was the 2024 National Coach of the Year. 

In the head coach discussion of the two, only one has those accomplishments. 

How will their careers end as head coaches? We shall see. So much more difficult for any of these guys to win NC's with a real playoff headed to 16 teams. 

As assistant coaches, Sark has been the OC of three NC's. Nick Saban won five national titles at Bama with different offensive coordinators. None have won one as a head coach. Maybe Sark will be the first! The only OC under Nick Saban to go on and win an NC was Jimbo Fisher at FSU. Pete Carroll won NC's with two different OC's at USC. Neither have won NC as a head coach. Maybe Sark will be the first! 

Will be fun to follow.

Not sure if this was already covered elsewhere, but:

Freeman dropping early season games is a warning flag for me - are you just filing that under a young coach learning how to better prepare?

Second is a hypothetical, if Texas had played ND in semis last year, wouldn't Sark likely be the one in the NCG?

Lastly and maybe most time sensitive - if Freeman is #1 on CDCs succession plan, would Freeman leave ND for any current opening (I think no for several reasons) and if so would he prefer Texas... what do you think?

BONUS: And would he be waiting for tOSU?

Edited October 27, 2025Oct 27 by HookedOnTF